They can maybe come back, but do you think a management team that was able to make such a colossal string of blunders has the ability to salvage the name and win back customer trust? In 2011 I bought a Marlin 1894c in .357. so the tang at the bottom of the grip was not flush with the stock. Can Marlin come back? Hornady's reconfigured powders make such efficiency possible, and that at pressures less than 47,000 psi. They even got the address wrong (luckily I have friends at the UPS dock who corrected the problem). .338" (Marlin Express) PRODUCT LINE: FTX . .308 Marlin Express - Wikipedia Sometime after World War II Jack O'Connor, the Dean of American gun writers, proposed a new .33 caliber cartridge. Can thebrand survive four years of cranking out dreadful firearms, especially with Henry Repeating Rifles eating its breakfast, lunch and dinner? of recoil with a 200 grain bullet would defeat the primary purpose of the cartridge. WOW, I went to three different gun stores and handled the model 336. We often add layers of defect detection during this period and theyre usually added as the permanent corrective action for something that already went wrong (i.e. This fabulous propellant meters flawlessly and makes lever action cartridges like the 30-30 Winchester yield velocities in excess of 100 fps over any published handloads, with even greater gains over factory ammunition. So when those screws are threaded in all the way, they *look* cross-threaded, although they are not. Nothing I have read on blogs is true about my gun. Its practical effective range on CXP2 game would be limited by its trajectory. I want a lever gun, too, in .38spl/.357mag; but Ive been conflicted over the choices out there. Re-assemble the widgets from the random parts and see if they ALL work nope. Gussying-up a gun of questionable quality will rescue Marlin from its ten-foot-pole exclusion zone amongst knowledgeable consumers. All Rights Reserved. did not. Since Hornady discontinued their FP bullet finding suitable bullets for the .33 is not impossible but not easy. It is because I trust a receiver made 50-100 years ago more than I trust recent commercial production. Personally, I would only buy an older used Marlin gun that can be checked out in person, at least until there are reports of significant changes at Freedom Group. J. Scott Rupp takes a first look at the Springfield M1A Loaded rifle chambered in the popular 6.5 Creedmoor. I have owned a few over the years though I never was a huge Marlin fan because it seemed the majority had pistol grips rather than straight stocks on the lever-guns. That means that either the parts used were out of spec, OR the assembly jig was out of whack, or something. Remington 444 Marlin 240 gr Soft Point Core-Lokt 20/Box. Stock inletting was intentionally left a bit undersized and immediately after the rear of the receiver and its tangs were induction-heated to a very high temperature, pressing the receiver and the stock firmly together caused metal to burn its way into the wood for an extremely close fit. He was forced to cock the hammer manually and then work the lever to chamber a round. Definitely! Im aware that there has been a negative gap in Marlin workmanship in recent years but I believe Marlin is coming back & I hope the brand survives because of it. "Powders we developed specifically for LEVERevolution cartridges are not yet available in canisters for handloaders," Dave emphasizes. However, on several occasions, Marlin has chambered the Model 336 for faster cartridges for use in open country. Having just purchased a new to me but manufactured pre sale of the company Marlin lever gun (45/70), I can tell you that the newly manufactured lever guns receive almost nothing but horrible reviews (invloving both quality control, and customer service or lack thereof). This was not my first bad experience with AAC the first being when the ratchet on that suppressor flew off while shooting it in a rural environment, which fortunately did not result in a baffle strike. I can get used to how it loads. Guess Ill wait until an old one shows up in a pawn shop or something. The stock had gaps that I was able to fit a penny into between reveiver and stock. Update! I look through two or three new ones at the gun counter and choose the best specimen I can find. "We re-engineered our 200-grain .338 Winchester Magnum bullet with a thinner jacket to encourage upset at long range. Lauderdale wouldnt let me inspect action with the trigger lock off. Ramp up production on the .357 and .44 mag carbines to bring them to the same price point as the .30-30s and you will make a lot of people very happy. But do you know how to properly use them? Although the heavy bullet weight of these cartridges allow them more muzzle energy, the ballistic advantage of the .338 Marlin Express's projectile begins to show beyond 100 yards. Their lockup is as strong as that of most bolt rifles. Thats why the steel, especially on the receiver, had to be very, very good. Also have a brass Henry Big Boy. 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. Question to Marlin-WTF? Old machines well maintained are also not a problem. And once we got that straightened out, we had to fix a problem with the forend tip, forend tip tenon, and forend tip tenon screws none of which lined up properly anymore once the magazine tube was properly aligned. I sent it to Ilion You have beaten the naysayers! Rough actions, etc., etc. TESTED: Hodgdon LEVERevolution Powder - Ultimate Reloader Hunting with the .308 Marlin Express - CHUCKHAWKS.COM I wonder how long until ammo makers stop producing these two cartridges? Sorry but Henry did not make the first but I will grant you that they have heritageThe first lever action was made by Volcano Firearms and they were made with both cast iron and brass receiversAn old boss of mine owned one at one time and I think he told me there was less that 20 of them left in existence and his was the only one with a iron receiver.Winchester borrowed it from him and put it on display since they had never seen one with the iron receiverAlso Henrys are a decent firearm however I never bought one because I too felt that they were over priced even when I could getem for $300 back in the day I could get a Winchester for less.. BTW, Ive bought three Marlin .22s in the past three years: each has been quite good and, for my money, a slightly better deal than the Ruger .22 rifle I also bought. This was before the advent of the .308 Winchester case, so O'Connor suggested that the new cartridge could use a necked-up 7x57 case. Maybe they wrote a puff piece for some disclosed reason, such as sponsorship dollars. Functioning with the new round was smooth and fault-free. So zeroed, the maximum point blank range (MPBR) of this load is 214 yards (+/- 3 inches). To save Marlin from imploding, Remington invested both dollars and manpower in a multifaceted approach to achieve the kind of quality that had slipped during the transition. The Remington Model Seven is ready, willing and able to handle just about any task. 338MXLR :: Guns.com Before there were scopes or red dots there were iron sights. Clearly no one had ever worked this action at the factory or anywhere else until this poor guy got it to the range. Truly the ultimate choice for big game out to long range, it's the latest ballistic achievement . went into production, the .307 Win. During the last such .308 famine, I saw lots and lots of .30/30 ammunition sitting on store shelves all by its lonesome. Marlin 308MXLR - .308 Marlin Express | D4 Guns The Model 336C (MSRP: $635) in .30-30 or .35 Remington is the most popular in the line. Thank You Enjoy! Thick skin. But then again the 1860 design had ergonomic flaws the magazine loading instead of the loading gate. NOTE: The innovative LEVERevolution FTX and MonoFlex bullet designs may require a newer magazine follower to provide best possible functioning of the last round out of the magazine in certain guns. The deluxe version of the Texan has a fancy walnut stock, machine-cut engraving, and a gold-colored trigger. The Mossberg 500 Pump Action Shotgun is one of the most popular home defense shotguns on the market. Traditional spitzer bullets are not compatible with the tubular magazines. For the $100 or so difference in price, you get a MUCH better rifle. Call (866) 582-4867, PO Box 1131 13800 Nicollet Blvd Burnsville, MN 55337 2023Guns.com. I asked no reason given. Back in the day, youhad to read a gunreview very carefully to pick-up any hintthat afirearm was a POS. Lever Action Metallic Silhouette a fun and popular shooting sport, and Winchesters Model 94 in .22 Winchester Magnum is a natural choice for this competition. With the action closed, the rear of the bolt hangs out a hair proud from the receiver in 2009 hornady's ballistics dept under the direction of dave emary developed a cartridge with a ballistics match to the 30-06 180gr load. I mean, how bad do you have to fuck up to make a Rossi look like the better choice? Fit and finish is solid, accuracy is very good, 500+ rounds through both rifles with NO malfunctions shooting everything from standard CCI, Remington Golden Bullet, Federal bulk,Winchester X, and CCI Mini-Mag. All the crap rifles should be immediately recalled. This round was designed with an elastomer tip, so that the .338 projectile would be safe for use in the tubular magazines of lever-action rifles. We have seen great improvement over the year, and we continue to focus on further improvements.. I know that, over the years, the stock is going to get dinged up and the bluing will lose its depth or come off entirely in spots. They do some pretty rigorous and thorough testing, so youre getting a little bit more than paying for an opinion. Plans call for rifles that were suspended to make their way back into the line as the manufacturing process works outs its kinks. My second Model 336 was the Texan with a straight-grip stock, which was the standard version. As I related in my article "Woods and Brush Rifles," O'Connor theorized that such a cartridge should be able to drive its bullet through the brush better than the 30-30, .307 Winchester, .308 Marlin, .300 Savage and .308 Winchester, open up fast, and would have more shocking power than the .35 Remington or .38-55. (Remington officials later acknowledged the move was a disaster.) And it may be that I'll get my best opportunity far from the muzzle. 30 carbine has a small problem with reloads that have been fired in an m 1 military carbine. Marlin 308 Marlin Express Review and Shooting - Lone Star State Firearms Now people are either hanging on to them or they are being bought up. TOTALLY AGREE WITH ANNOYED MAN 8/23/18 I purchased a Remlin Cowboy 1894 in .45 Colt mid-July. Seriously, what is this, the 1970s? Thats why you can go to a gunshow and build a functioning AR-15 from Mil-Spec parts on 10 different tables. Gone are all versions of the 450 Marlin. 338 Marlin Express for sale at Gunsamerica.com: 946843149 We even had a carbon 15 rifle with so many bubbles and lumps in the upper receiver it looked like it had chicken pocks, how the heck dose someone miss that. Now that I have made the necessary repairs to the magazine and forend and improved the sights, I have a pretty darn good general purpose truck gun / deer rifle/ hog-slayer / whatever you want to call it. The .338 Marlin Express was designed to produce performance similar to the .30-06 Springfield. It'll do that or better all day. The Model 1893s first chamberings were .32-40 and .38-55 Winchester, and a factory-mounted telescopic sight was among its options. Initially offered in .30-30, .35 Remington, .444 Marlin, .450 Marlin and .45-70 ammunition, the bullets are now available in several other Hornady LEVERevolution loads. I just purchased my first Marlin 1895 GS 45/70, not realizing that Remington acquired Marlin. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. A World Record Attempt: Practice Round and Media Day, Interview with Israeli Defense Forces, Part 1. *Caliber, Barrel Length, Generations, Sub Models may all affect item price. Scott Rupp gets a chance to talk to Aaron Oelger about a few new products from Hodgdon and why reloading store shelves are empty. Recently (2017), I was interested in a Marlin 30/30 model 336 for a truck/deer gun. It is just as good & I still have it. The .338 Marlin Express has plenty of power, the FTX bullet is good and tough, but 2,500 fps is good only up to a point. Dave promptly parlayed this work on traditional lever-action rounds into new cartridges. Since I inspected it at gun shop will they not allow me to return it now? From time to time weve had glimpses of the doofuses (doofi?) Id love to see Marlin get their stuff together and it would be even better if they could become independent. CALIBER: 338 Cal. Glad I looked here before buying one-which I almost did today. Items Per Page: Item Total: (7) 0 - 7 338 Marlin Express Full Length Series I 2 Die Set With Zip Spindle 005-546359 | Hornady $62.35 In Stock 338 Marlin Express Seater Die 044-25438 | RCBS $15.80 In Stock of recoil attributed to an 8 pound .308 Winchester rifle shooting a 200 grain bullet. Itll make ragged holes @ 50 yards off a bench using 158gr JSPs. Fender and CBS. I returned the rifle to marlin again requesting they fix it. The plans at NorthHaven had simply been passed down through the generations. Thanks. The 450 was ok. Just went in last week to get one, wow what a pile of junk!!!! Today I went to the range to tune in a new Skinnner peep sight on my Real actual Marlin 30-30. Micro-Groove rifling, which has 12 shallow lands and grooves, was introduced in Marlin .22 rimfire rifles in 1953, and by 1956 all centerfire barrels had it as well. All of Marlins models should have been put in CAD in under a year, easily. These are reports are from 2013 and 2014. Clearly the National Shooting Sports Foundations reporter wasnt paying attention. it has never had a feed failure not caused by me (short shucked) Old equipment does not travel well. I have one Marlin, a 795, great little rifle, manufactured long before the move. Ive bought two used JM Marlin 1895s from Keiths Sporting Goods in the past year, both are very good guns. Didnt take down the serial number to see what year it was made but either there is still a ton of junk out there or Marlin still cant consistently make a good gun. but it is smooth on sliding surfaces So I didnt have to send it in to Marlin to get it fixed. which the stock is a beautiful almost reddish color laminated grains but the fore-end is totally off color and is no red at all and is more tan-brown???? I understand this is an old thread, but want to reply anyway, Grizzly Custom Guns, LLC - Custom Marlin Leverguns, Custom Scout Rifles, Custom Tactical Shotguns, Video interview of Walt Berger and Eric Stecker of Berger Bullets, Extreme Long Range Hunting & Shooting (ELR). machinerer 2 yr. ago Ive seen some Marlins that have horrendous fit and finish and thats just what I can see on the outside. A dozen chamberings include the .325 WSM. the average deer hunter could take advantage of its benefits. Even counting screws and springs, its probably still less than a hundred individual pieces. I never gave them the chance, and with good reason. Because of this, I own a Rossi 92. If I find an old Marlin in the meantime, itll go home with me. I dont trust any Cerberus-owned company to make a decent product. One entry level 30-30, more expensive Texas Deluxe 30-30 and a 45-70. They got even more angry. Still, when I buy any gun anymore, I look it over like Im buying a used gun.